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Re: Need out of your iPhone contract? $1100 minimum please

THE MAN — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 10:30:08 -0000

THERE IS A WAY TO GET OUT OF YOUR CONTRACT. GO TO THEIR WEBSITE LOOK AT THEIR CELLULAR COVERAGE MAP AND PICK A LOCATION THAT HAS NO SERVICE AND SAY YOUR MOVING. THEY THEN WILL WAVE THE DISCONNECT FEE OF 400 DOLLARS AND ONLY CHARAGE YOU 1 MONTHS FREE CANCELLATION NOTICE.!!!!!

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Kyle — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:27:57 -0000

Amen.

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Robert — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 11:12:30 -0000

Oh god just stop using them, I use rogers for pay as you go, because cell phone is just that communication and nothing else. Turn it on at night NO VOICE mail, because frankly...if you want to leave me a message..YOU PAY FOR IT!

Text only in important situations or during their daytime RAPE minutes.

They scam scam scam and lie through the teeth. If americans Roaming on verizon can be charged a mere .002 cents kilobyte while in canada, why are canadians paying 5cents?

Stop using them, be an adult and realize you dont' need this shit. Be like our parents, pick up the phone when you need it and talk to them, otherwise shut the piece of shit off. You don't need to be in constant contact with every biological unit, and most of the tiem it's inane prattle and nothing important.

If your company pays for it, fine you need to be in touch with them. But everyday humans could do with less contact with eachother, not more.

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Dan — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:48:52 -0000

I do not expect true unlimited. I understand if they put fair usage restrictions (no torrents, tethering, etc). I don't even mind a soft cap. A soft cap would allow them to indenify abusers rather than punish us all. I also would accept if they were to drop down the bandwith afer a certain point like they do in Germany (After 300MB: bandwidth limited to 64 kbit/s download & 16 kbit/s upload). I wouldn't be extantic but at least it wouldn't render the device unusable like their existing plans.

They are simply using the data caps as leverage to try to push people into higher plans. That is why they don't want to offer unlimited data. Greed and contempt for their customers is the Rogers way.

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Sharp — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:23:08 -0000

By the way, if you do includes extra charge for Rogers, you should do the same for ATT.

Read carefully:
http://www.wireless.att.com...
http://www.wireless.att.com...

Re: Need out of your iPhone contract? $1100 minimum please

Robert — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:20:37 -0000

Not a valid argument.

Att 2007 Q4 - wireless revenue $11.4 billion dollars, wireless operating profit $1.9 billion
Rogers 2008 Q1 - wireless revenue $1.4 billion dollars, wireless operating profit $0.7 billion.

Rogers have 1/9th the revenue as att but have 1/3rd the profit. If this doesn't convince you that rogers is cash grabbing, i don't know what will.

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Sharp — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:16:33 -0000

That's your point of view, mine is a little different :)

I found that they move from 5cents per KB to a few cent to many MB (and even GB) for a relatively good price. I agree it is still expensive but now affordable for many people. I expect a better price in a couple of months.

Not sure where do you come from, but we (in quebec) pay 45$ for a capped broadband connection.
I cant imagine an uncapped "broadband speed" wireless connection for less than 100$, voice excluded.

Re: Need out of your iPhone contract? $1100 minimum please

Dan — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:00:47 -0000

Why are you shilling for Rogers? Do you work for them?

Here's the real deal:

Canada: $60 + $6.95 SAF + 911 + $7 call display = $75/month = 150 local minutes + 400MB data
USA: $70/month = 450 nation wide minutes + unlimited data
GB: $70/month = 600 nation wide minutes + unlimited data

You call an exta 300 minutes "a little more"? Get real.

Also the fact that they have unlimited data is the most important part of the deal. I could deal with the stingy "never use a cell phone" 7 minutes per day voice plan if they would just give us the unlimited data. What you and Rogers don't seem to understand is that it is NOT about how much data you are actually going to use, it is about being able to use an always on, data heavy mobile device without having to have a nagging little voice in the back of your head always wondering if you are going over your limit. It literally ruins the iPhone because it is a device designed from the ground up with the assumption of unlimited data.

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Zach — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:47:02 -0000

2b. And there is no way to check your current monthly data usage

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Sharp — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:21:52 -0000

By the way, I just looked to ATT price plan for iPhone 3G and the plans are very similar:
http://www.wireless.att.com...

From 70USD to 130USD. They have a little more minutes anytime, they offer unlimited evening at $90 (while Rogers starts offering this at $60. The big difference is about Data while ATT says unlimited and Rogers offers 400MB/750MB/1GB"2WG depending of the plan. From my point of view, that's normal since ATT is 10 time bigger.

Honestly, my broadband connection is cap to 20GB and I uses about 5GB/month. So 1 GB should be good enough for data surfing on a phone.

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Sharp — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:15:32 -0000

By the way, it seems that Rogers has corrected their typo on their website. It now shows the proper ECF in english on the iPhone page. I guess the news on wirelessnorth should be updated accordingly..

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Sharp — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:08:09 -0000

You cannot really compare a canadien carrer with a USA carrier. They have to cover such a wide country with the population of the NY-state. So in order to make money (and pay their network equipment) they obviously have to increase the price.

Honestly i find that 60-100$ for a voice/data price plan is correct. It could be a little better but I am sure that things will change in the future.

Try to find another carrier with similar condition (Australia? Russian?) to find out their price plan, THEN compare.

Also, please note that many carrier that provide "unlimited data" on iPhone apply a soft cap at 1GB. Thus raed carefully.

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Joe Guy — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:41:33 -0000

I have a hard time understanding your comment if you haven't checked the US or any other country in the world's prices. Why should Canadians be paying so much more for so much less? So I DO see EVERYTHING wrong with the iPhone pricing.

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Sharp — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 08:24:07 -0000

Personnally, I dont see anything wrong with the iPhone pricing.

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Kevin — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:40:10 -0000

There is a very simple and effective way to get out of any cell phone contract, even more so in Canada. Pick any community north of the 48th paralell (most are not serviced by carriers) and decide that you're moving there in a month. Since they can't service you there, they are in breach of contract and must abolish it. Of course no law prevents you from changing your mind on moving there once the contract has been abolished ;)

Re: Need out of your iPhone contract? $1100 minimum please

Mike — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:00:06 -0000

It was a typing error, it is 100$ or 20$/month to a max of 400$.... not 1100$.

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Robert — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:34:37 -0000

Maybe the pricing of their iphone plan is also a typo. Can someone call and check?

(fingers crossed).

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The batman — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:37:40 -0000

As a Rogers employee ( with no additional insider information to offer ), I think it prudent that people wait for such clarification as I too doubt the $1100 ECF and attribute it to simply being a typo. Also, in response to the huge backlash against the announced plans, no-one seems to understand that a regular data plan can be added to your preferred voice plan - those exact details have not been released but the plans are not unreasonable in price at all. People should not all jump on the same bandwagon until all details have been announced and made official.

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Sharp — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:50:29 -0000

Caller ID is not $15 but rather $7 (with caller number plus caller name).

The $15 package is a bundle that includes caller id, 2500 outgoing sms and Ringback tunes.

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geo — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:04:29 -0000

I just went through a series of emails with a very helpful lady from Rogers. She echoed the email that was posted on Nickster's blog almost word for word about being able to use our current plans with the iPhone. I emailed her back about this post, and showed her the link on Rogers' site that it's based on. She said "All the iPhone bundles are subject to our standard Early Cancellation Fee policy, which is $20 per month for unfulfilled month, with a minimum of $100 to a maximum of $400. I'll investigate the web link but the Early Cancellation Fee policy remains unchanged: it is a max of $400."

So I think we can definitely chalk this up to being a typo. :)

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Time For Change — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:25:03 -0000

Outrageous pricing from Rogers has destroyed my desire to purchase an iPhone. I've patiently waited for more than a year and my disappointment is enormous.

I simply refuse to pay this much for so little. I already pay more than $200 to Rogers per month and don't want to make this $300 and lock myself into a 3 year contract in the area where things change so quickly. $15 dollar fee for a caller ID is a slap in the face and is simply insulting.

In fact, I'm so disappointed at Rogers with their iPhone ripoff, I'm going to review my options for home phone, high-speed Internet and cable TV and whether I really need all of them.

If I have better options that Rogers, I'll make sure that they know the reason why I'm dumping them. What goes around, comes around and enough is enough.

Unfortunately, this situation is the result of GSM monopoly that Rogers is exploiting to the fullest. Where is Canadian Government in all of this? I don't like government intervention in business matters, but this is clearly a monopoly case. Yes, there are Bell and Telus that run CDMA but GSM is the world standard.

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Sharp — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:27:47 -0000

It is amazing how such (bad?) typo can become such a flaming war against Rogers. However we need to realize how bad is Rogers when they type something on their website.

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Gazora — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:25:39 -0000

From the terms on the Rogers site (in French): (i) 100 $ ou (ii) 20 $ par nombre de mois restant à la période d’abonnement, jusqu’à un maximum de 400 $

So the cancellation fee is the highest of 20$ per month (over the remaining term) or 100$

Re: Need out of your iPhone contract? $1100 minimum please

Sharp — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:24:46 -0000

Regarding data pricing, I think the main concern of Rogers is not to reduce the data price rate, but rather to find the sweet spot. If to put a price "too low", it is really hard to jump the price up a few months after. They moved it down, and the will move the price down again. It is still too high, but they are moving in the right direction. I'll wait and see..

Re: Need out of your iPhone contract? $1100 minimum please

Richard Smith — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:20:20 -0000

Ah. Sharp (above) has sorted it out. A tempest in a teapot caused by a typo. Thanks, Sharp...